Appendix Project Space is showing I’m not going anywhere until I die, a new body of sculptural work by David Knowles. Jamie interviewed David about the show via chat. The show opens April 28th at Appendix.
Jamie Edwards: Ok, first of all, I love the title of your show.
David Knowles: Aw thanks.
JE: Is it obtuse if I ask where it comes from?
DK: Not at all, it’s totally relevant. It came from a conversation I had with Amy Bernstein, who is the writer in residence at Appendix right now. It relates to one of the pieces in the show– a performance with four people who are engaged in an effort to determine the circumstances of their co-presence. A looping play. Anyway, I was telling Amy that it’s those kinds of questions that are always playing on loop in my head.
JE: Which questions?
DK: Questions about the circumstances and conditions of our presence among each other– Why are we here? What am I saying? Etc.
JE: Gotcha.
DK: I was telling her that it’s this kind of human constant, and no matter where you go or what you do these questions persist. So even if you move somewhere else, or try to become a different person, you’re not actually going anywhere.
JE: “Wherever you go, there you are.”
DK: Right! And then of course death is the absurd end of that logic. But it’s not a depressing condition or anything.
JE: Not at all.
DK: Anyway, that’s the title.
JE: Do you think you are equally interested in the “death is the absurd end” part? Or I guess a more direct (and again obtuse) way to ask that is– do you think this show is directly dealing with death?
DK: No I don’t think so, at least not in a personal sense. I am concerned with the limits of what a person is and one of those limits–the biological one–is death. But there are also other “ends” of people.
JE: And in terms of our “co-mingling” we have at least that in common. But I hope that’s not where the overlap stops! haha
DK: This is true. Actually that’s interesting that you say that about us having that in common. One of the other pieces in the show deals with this idea of commonality. It’s a poster. There are 500 copies of it, and it sits on this pedestal.
JE: Who do I have to know to get one? :)
DK: Well that’s the thing. It’s a big stack, but there’s a really thick piece of plexi on top of the stack so you can’t actually take them. But the phrase on the poster is another thought that is always floating around in my head. It says: we are all now. Like in the old rallying cry of nationalistic solidarity, but with the object replaced by a lapse. Or a pause. It means that the only thing we ever are together is nothing. Because a totalizing togetherness is impossible. At the same time, the phrase has a temporal focus. We are all now. Here. In time. At this instant. All of us.
[long silent pause]
JE: Sorry, I’m still here– I’m having to take a moment to accept that a totalizing togetherness is impossible. A sort of, “Fuck. David is probably right.” haha
DK: HA! I mean, this idea is the foundation of our entire political order, or rather I think this is the self-identified foundation. Because people who really know power know that not everyone belongs.
JE: Geez. True enough.
DK: Anyway, the actors have done a really great job with the performance, and there’s a third piece that’s a sound installation…a dub plate playing on a loop.
JE: How did you find your actors? What sort of prep did they have to do for this?
DK: I found them through friends– mostly through my friend, Noah, who is an actor in town. They had three weeks or so to prepare, though I actually had to find a replacement for one of the actors so one of them has only been at it for a few days. She’s a pro though.
JE: Will the performance piece be one night only?
DK: Yeah. The whole show is only one night. I think it starts at 7, and goes until late.
JE: So basically, if people REALLY want to try and determine the circumstances of their co-presence with you, it’s this Saturday or not at all.
DK: Ha! What do you mean? We’re co-present right now, aren’t we?
JE: I just mean… people should show up! But you’re right. We are.
DK: Yeah…it’s gonna be fun.
