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edited January 2011
I'm taking this Jazz review class where I have to review a jazz record once a week. I really haven't explored jazz so I would definitely listen to some recommends if you have some.
I do have a few things:
a couple of Sun Ra records, Vince Guaraldi, and some late era Medeski Martin and Wood...
but that's it
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  • Miles Davis "Bitches Brew"
    John Coltrane "Giant Steps"
    Alice Coltrane "Journey in Satchidananda"
    Pharoah Sanders "The Creater Has a Master Plan" (is that an album or a song?)

    COOL CLASSICS THAT ARE GOOD
  • Hey this is a cool thread. I will listen to these and then I can act like I know jazz.
  • For example, this would have been useful for shooting the shit in an interview.
  • Maybe I should start a jazz blog, the sports blog I do totally got me into sports.
  • edited January 2011
    There was this period in the fall this year where I went to 4 concerts in a row (at different venues) where they played that Alice Coltrane album inbetween bands. That album rules.
    I co-signs all of Teen Wolf's. That Pharaoh one is a the main song from that Pharaoh album "Karma"

    Here's some others:

    Herbie Hancock "Headhunters"
    John Coltrane "A Love Supreme"
    Ornette Coleman "The Shape of Jazz to Come"
    Joao Gilberto "Getz/Gilberto"
    David Axelrod "Song of Innocence"
    Charles Mingus "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady"
    Pharoah Sanders "Karma"
    Thelonius Monk "Monk's Dream"

    Maybe some Cecil Taylor

    There are A LOT of good Miles Davis albums and they really span a huge swath of many eras/sounds of jazz.

    Listen to:
    "Birth of Cool"
    "Cookin'"/"Relaxin'"
    "Miles Ahead"
    "Kind of Blue"
    "Sketches of Spain"
    "Quiet Nights"
    "Miles Smiles"
    "Miles in the Sky"
    "In A Silent Way"
    "Live/Evil"
    "On the Corner"
  • oh also some Dave Brubeck "Time Out" for some cool 50s white people jazz!
  • oh also
    Art Blakey "Moanin"

    Oh, also some Moondog in there. Moondog is totally jazz!

    also earlier stuff like Duke Ellington and Dizzy Gillespie ("Bird & Diz")
    also some vocal jazz like Ella Fitzgerald or Sarah Vaughn

  • So many good Miles albums. I also highly recommend Headhunters by Herbie Hancock. STRONG FUNK/FUCK JAMS! But his early, less "funky" piano jazz is great as well.
    Cannonball Adderley - Mercy, Mercy, Mercy!
    Charlie Parker, right?
    Bill Frisell, for that easy-listening vibe
    US3 - Hand on the Torch (JUST KIDDING)
  • Charles Mingus is SO GOOD, I love Ah Um and Cumbia & Jazz Fusion
    also Rahsaan Roland Kirk, and get some classic Charlie Parker. Also John Zorn for more recent-ish downtown NY Jazz.
  • Albert Ayler! I am not very familiar with jazz music but I love Albert Ayler so much. The first time I heard his music, I went crazy!
  • These are all so good! I co-sign all of these!

    Love Supreme SO RULES HARD

  • edited January 2011
    Cool lists! I have to do one a week, so 9 in total. Is there a general consensus on the best Miles Davis or even a top 2? How are those Miles Davis/John Coltrane albums?
    I get double credit if I review a live performance so I probably will do that for one of them too.
  • Bill Evans is definitely worth checking out. old school dude who definitely influenced many of the other dudes who have been recommended above.

    i think 'Kind of Blue' is generally considered Davis' biggest hit
  • I don't think it would be out of line to have 3 of 4 of the albums be Miles Davis.

    Some of the albums in this thread are live albums. Lots of Jazz records are.
  • Is the double credit for listening to a "live album" or for attending a "live jazz performance"? I did a similar course once, and we got bonus points for actually going to jazz shows.

    Does #ukjazz count?
  • edited January 2011
  • attending a live performance
    and I also meant to say
    How are those Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane albums? ..instead of Davis/Coltrane
  • Thelonious Monk is GREAT STUFF

    Piano dude.

    You will get into (if it is a good class) different instruments and the different people's use of / relationship to said instruments. soprano sax vs. deeper, more resonant saxes in Coltrane's oeuvre, e.g. What the different instruments are capable of and how the various artists pushed those physical capabilities. And then the relationship between instruments and vocals, in jazz, which rarely gets talked about because most jazz vocalists are women, and "jazz" since the 1950's or so is supposed to be this macho struggling genre where you're sweating and working through dense, intense, intellectually challenging musical topics, and these aren't qualities people have tended to enjoy associating with women, plus women in music have always been traditionally more associated with singing than with instruments, because for hundreds of years this was the only thing a woman was allowed to do onstage, so "vocals" as a jazz instrument usually gets pretty ghettoized into, like, "oh yeah all this other stuff" categories, at least in the jazz stuff I have read/heard at conferences. But the vocal stuff is amazing and beautiful--AND, all the praised jazz guys were totally influenced by the lady vocalists, and vice versa, there are all kinds of communications happening that don't necessarily make it into the canonical history of jazz as told in textbooks.

    I recommend a great book called "Keeping Time," which is a collection of source readings throughout jazz history, starting in the late 19th century. It is totally mind-blowing to read stuff written in the various time periods---from newspaper articles freaking out about the "primitive beating of the jungle-skins" and the "negro's innate sense of rhythm" to angry articles about how jazz is encouraging young women to remove their corsets, to cool stuff written by the dudes themselves, about practicing at each others' houses and why they got interested in certain musical experiments that later made them famous (Coltrane's "sheets of sound," e.g.).

    I don't know that much about jazz but this is just a brief list of shit I remember talking about in various seminars, and hearing about at a jazz conference I presented at once. One of my colleagues is a jazz specialist and so I have also heard her go on and on about these issues. I can give more reading recommendations if you want, but Keeping Time is a great place to start.
  • There are very great jazz nights in town. This guy, Ron Steen, throws them in my neighborhood (ne) on Thursday and Sunday evenings. Great musicians from the community sitting in. Totally worth it. Especially the one at Clyde's Steak House. I'm becoming a regular there. 54/Sandy around 9-11 PM on Sundays.
  • That sounds cool, Lolo. Who's playing?

    http://clydesprimerib.com/Music_Calendar.html
  • On Sunday evenings it's an open "jam session" where Ron sees musicians out in the audience and has them come sit in.
  • The once or twice weekly Jimmy Mak's sessions dowtown with Mel Brown are stellar. Back in the day Mel was a Motown session player (drums). Total class act. I saw him last week with an octet (five horns). Fully awesome, straight-ahead session. Good stuff, though not bleeding edge. Some very inspired players though. Would love to see what else Andre (bass) is into. Also impressed by one of the sax players, I think his name was Ronaldo. The trombone player does the horn arrangements. Talked to him about a big band project he has coming up doing charts for a Nigerian (or Senegalese?) player. You could learn a lot from these players.
  • Rob Walmart = Postmodern Digital Jazz
  • "It's more about the notes he's NOT playing."

    UT OH! There's been a spill of swinging beats and riffs all over the place.

    I'm declaring this thread a real BIOJAZZARD threat.
  • What Alex said. Jazzard!
  • Where does Jazzmatazz fit in?

    Thanks,
    gary
  • That's the jazzard that comes from excessive jazz-handing, I think.

    Beware.
  • I reviewed Bitches Brew
    I did a Bitches Brew review
  • Post'em all!
  • edited January 2011
    I will post some when they get better than elaborate versions of "Jazz is cool!"

    the super cliff notes version of my review for bitches brew is something like:
    Jazz is cool!
    Everything is all twirly and atonal sometimes!
  • edited January 2011
    "Jazz Impressions of Black Orpheus" by Vince Guaraldi

    I was trying to think of other jazz that I have liked in my limited jazz past, and I remembered Guaraldi’s “Charlie Brown Christmas”. It might still be the 1 Christmas album that I have yet to get tired of hearing every year. I decided to look up some of his other stuff. Wikipedia told me this album was a good place to go and it didn’t disappoint me.
    The first track “Samba de Orpheus” is great right off the bat. The bass guitar and drums set the mood and then Vince Guaraldi makes…well I want to say huge entrance, but that isn’t right. I’m not really sure how to put his entrance other than to say he plays the notes I want to hear. The little 4 chord break down part a little before 4 minutes? I love it. He never over does it. He just plays exactly what the song needs. He is modest in his tone. It’s hard not to get into Charlie Brown metaphors.
    The second song brings it back down into a slower jazz. One of the brilliant things about his music is his minimal band. Almost never more than bass, piano, and drums. The bass and the drums all seem to be tailor fit for Guaraldi’s style too.
    The third track starts slow, but it’s a trick. He brings it right back up. This track is maybe the first VGT track I’ve heard where the drummer gets pretty significant solo time. There are also lots of those chunky chord melody hits again like the first track.
    Track 4 is super grooved out. The bass line really gives Vince some good places to go. The end is a flurry of little simplistic melodies, and some beautiful chord progressions. The bass does such a great job of transitioning this song.
    “Cast your fate to the wind” is a little all over the place with some pretty straightforward generic jazz but with this really beautiful droning part that comes in every so often. There is also this little pop part that follows it that is really fun.
    Track six “Moon River” starts off in almost Debussy style wavy lilts and then heads into one of those Guaraldi melodies that calms your entire body. It fades between these two elements for the whole song, and it's hard not to wish I was slowly driving through a Midwest blizzard on a small highway while listening to it.
    The last couple of tracks are just ok. “Alma-ville” has a couple nice little catchy hooks. It also has some kinda generic Guaraldi stuff too which is kinda disappointing. There are, at least, a few of his descending chunky chord melodies.
    Wrapping up the album is “Since I Fell For You” which is kinda a disappointment. It is pretty cliché bluesy smooth jazz. There are a couple of little interesting noises that VG makes, and it's cool that he can really make you feel like the Piano is singing, but overall the song is pretty generic. Good thing there was so much quality before it!
  • Pat Metheny's - First Circle is really corny and also really good.

    Keith Jarrett's improv stuff!

    Lonnie Liston Smith's "Astral Traveling"

    Cassandra Wilson! "New Moon Daughter"

    Eddie Harris -- "Bad Luck Is All I Have"
  • billie holiday
    chet baker
    louis armstrong
    mahavishnu orchestra
    george benson -breezin
    al jarreau
    wes montgomery -bumpin
    sax dude that played with brubeck
    freddy hubbard
    stanley clark
    jaco pastorius
    chick corea
    george duke
    lenny white
    ron carter
    dizzy g
    that dude that played clarinet in big bands
    count basey prchestra
    the art ensemble of chicago
    other stuff
    stuff
    and stuff


    as for miles records im partial to bitches, in a silent way, dark magus

    as far as all jazz is concerned, unlike other pop forms, its all about the solos. the concept of a solo, of improvising in the moment, regardless if its big band jazz , a bebop quintet or some weird electronic free funk, its all about dudes' ability to "capture the moment" in creative spontanious creation
  • but if i had to pick 9 for you i would go:


    louis armstrong album
    duke ellington album or count basie album
    charlie parker album
    john coltrane album
    mingus or monk album, maybe mingus and monk
    some west coast cool jazz album. maybe chet baker or miles davis kind of blue
    in a silent way
    bitches brew
    george benson - breezin

    just go chronological from early to bigband to bebop to post bop to west coast cool/modal to fusion to smooth jazz

  • edited January 2011
    #portlandukjazz
  • ALL U NEED 2 KNOW ABOUT JAZZ:
  • OH SHIT THE BENSON IS KICKING IN.

    Winelight though.



  • ALL U NEED TO KNOW ABOUT JAZZ, PART 2:
  • skip to 5 minutes in on that one...
  • No way man, the first minute is sooo good!
  • oh grover!
    but what about stanley (jordan, not clarke) (also good)
  • Smoothed out Roy Ayers, Everybody Loves the Sunshine.



  • Heard Abbey Lincoln doin' "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings" the other day from 1981, fukin' punk - I kid you not.

    Also, Rassan Roland Kirk!

    I'll see if there's links.
  • Holy cow
    you guys are jazzing all over the place
    awesome :)
  • jazzing at clyde's
  • chet baker sings
    and chet baker sings - 'it could happen to you"
    i think one was '56 and the other '59. i like his drawl. he sings effortlessly and these are both great studio albums. i like the former better than most music. i like chet baker because he was kind of an eff up, like couldnt play trumpet at one time because he got his teeth knocked out, went to prison, was an addict, died falling off a balcony in amsterdam with cocaine and heroin in his system(citation needed). i mean, these are the reasons why people love and follow their favorite rock and roll stars, famous writers, etc etc.
  • tribe called quest
    +1 rassan roland kirk
    chet atkins
    miles davis was a badass
    frank sinatra's "watertown"

    i have some more at home to recommend..
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